Robin Foy Discusses The Scole Experiment with Jeffrey Mishlove
In a video first released on 14 May 2021, Scole Group member and author of the Scole diary, Robin Foy, discussed The Scole Experiment with Jeffrey Mishlove on the New Thinking Allowed channel.[1]
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New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove
The Scole Experiment with Robin Foy
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Description from YouTube
Robin Foy is possibly the most experienced and successful organizer and promoter of physical mediumship circles in the last century. He is the founder of the Noah's Ark Society as well as the Scole Group. He is author of In Pursuit of Physical Mediumship and Witnessing the Impossible.
Here he shares his insider's view of the amazing project that has come to be known as the Scole Experiment, possibly constituting the greatest variety and intensity of unbelievable physical phenomena in the history of parapsychology and psychical research. He describes the cohesion that developed between the living human members of the group, discarnate spirit helpers, and even beings he describes as extra-terrestrials.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is a past vice-president of the Association for Humanistic Psychology; and is the recipient of the Pathfinder Award from that Association for his contributions to the field of human consciousness exploration. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "Parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, 1980).
(Recorded on May 6, 2021)
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Notes
[1] New Thinking Allowed. (2021, 14 May). The Scole Experiment with Robin Foy [Video]. YouTube. https://youtu.be/kfCaLjQK46Y
Kevin Knuth Reveals 5000G UAP Accelerations – Why Science Ignores It
Chris Lehto is a former F-16 pilot with 18 years of experience in the Air Force. In this video he interviews Dr Kevin Knuth, a professor of physics at the University at Albany SUNY, about the physics of UAP (UFOs).
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Lehto Files
Kevin Knuth Reveals 5000G UAP Accelerations – Why Science Ignores It
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Summary (VidIQ AI)
00:00 The host introduces Dr. Kevin Knuth, a professor of physics at the University at Albany SUNY, highlighting his background in machine learning, neuroscience, astrophysics, and information physics, and his respected voice in UAP research.
00:54 Knuth recounts how a cattle mutilation incident in Montana in 1988, coupled with UFO sightings and a physics professor's casual mention of UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles at Malmstrom Air Force Base, sparked his initial, albeit skeptical, interest in UAPs.
04:47 Knuth describes how, in 2015, while preparing a lecture on astrobiology, he stumbled upon Robert Hastings' 2010 news conferences about UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles at Malmstrom Air Force Base, which validated the earlier anecdote and prompted him to seriously investigate UAPs.
09:45 Knuth shares a personal anecdote about his wife's uncle, a former Air Force member stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in 1971, who casually confirmed that UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles "used to happen all the time," highlighting the long-standing and unaddressed security breach.
14:21 Knuth explains the methodology behind his 2019 paper, co-authored with Robert Powell and Peter Reali, which calculated the minimum acceleration of the Nimitz "Tic Tac" UAP to be 5,000 Gs, reaching a top speed of 40,000 mph, a calculation accessible even to high school physics students.
26:39 Knuth discusses the lack of sonic booms and the immense energy required for the UAPs' observed accelerations and decelerations, noting that if the kinetic energy were converted to heat, it would be equivalent to 250 Tomahawk cruise missiles exploding, yet no such phenomena are reported.
27:44 Knuth details an ongoing case involving sonar data from a New Zealand frigate that tracked a 100-foot diameter, 800-foot long object moving at 3,000 mph underwater with 50 Gs of acceleration, highlighting the paradox of its interaction with water (detected by sonar but causing no displacement).
31:10 Knuth speculates on potential explanations for UAP phenomena, such as inertial mass reduction or localised spacetime warping (like Alcubierre warp metrics), and questions the atmospheric effects of such technologies, including the lack of reported atmospheric disturbances around alleged wormholes.
39:06 Knuth describes the genesis of his 2025 paper, "The New Science of Unidentified Aerospace Undersea Phenomena," which grew from a few paragraphs into a comprehensive review with 32 international co-authors, demonstrating the global scientific interest in UAPs and the collaborative effort to understand them.
46:01 Knuth highlights the significance of universities, like U Albany with its Project X, supporting UAP research, emphasising their "boots on the ground" approach to collecting hard scientific data, including deploying 24/7 cameras at known UAP hotspots.
48:19 Knuth asserts that some UAPs, particularly craft-like objects with measured speeds and accelerations, demonstrate capabilities beyond human technology, suggesting a "non-human craft" hypothesis is a valid consideration, while acknowledging the need for further taxonomic understanding of UAP types.
51:33 Knuth discusses the "woo" or paranormal aspects of UAP encounters, suggesting that unexpected commonalities in witness testimonies, such as the "baby to hold" phenomenon reported by 60% of alleged alien abductees, should be taken seriously as potential information, even if currently inexplicable.
55:02 Knuth proposes that some paranormal or supernatural phenomena might be aspects of physical reality not yet understood by science, similar to how ancient Romans viewed electricity and magnetism, and that UAP technology could be utilising such "new physics".
57:13 Knuth connects neuroscience to UAP encounters, noting evidence of strong electric and magnetic fields oscillating at 12 hertz, which could induce alpha rhythms in the brain, potentially altering perception and explaining some non-physical aspects of witness reports.
01:00:07 Knuth reflects on how studying UAPs has "trashed his whole worldview," leading him to question his previous understanding of the universe and to be more open-minded to extraordinary claims, recognising that many phenomena previously dismissed as impossible might hold elements of truth.
01:03:17 Knuth shares his fascination with the "telepathy tapes" involving autistic individuals, finding inspiration in the idea that they might possess a rich, telepathic inner life, and critiques the "dumb" excuses often offered by skeptics and denialists for UAP phenomena.
Timestamps (YouTube)
00:00:00 Kevin's Background: Physics, Neuroscience, Information Physics & UAP Interest
00:04:53Rediscovering Malmstrom in 2015 – From Joke to Serious Concern
00:06:51Post-2017 AATIP Article – Why Scientists Must Study UAP
Dr. Kevin Knuth is an American physicist, academic, and former NASA research scientist who serves as a Professor of Physics at the University at Albany (SUNY). He is widely recognized for both his mainstream academic contributions to information physics and his prominent scientific research into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP / UFOs).
Academic Background & Career
NASA Tenure: From 2001 to 2005, he worked at the NASA Ames Research Center in the Intelligent Systems Division, where he designed artificial intelligence and machine learning algorithms for astrophysical data analysis.
Current Roles: Alongside his professorship at SUNY Albany, he is the Editor-in-Chief of the peer-reviewed scientific journal Entropy, a member of the Santa Fe Institute, and a co-founder of Autonomous Exploration, Inc.
Core Research: His primary academic work focuses on the foundations of physics, Bayesian probability theory, quantum mechanics, and exoplanet detection. He has authored more than 100 peer-reviewed papers.
UAP & UFO Investigations
Dr. Knuth is one of the most prominent mainstream scientists advocating for the rigorous, data-driven study of UAPs.
Organisations: He serves on the Board of Advisors for the Society for UAP Studies and was appointed to Avi Loeb's UAP Science Advisory Council.
Project X: He is a lead scientist for Albany Project X (UAPx), a research initiative dedicated to analysing aerial mysteries using hard physical data and sensor equipment.
Media: Because of his research into high-profile military sightings (such as the USS Nimitz "Tic Tac" incident), he frequently appears as an expert commentator in documentaries on platforms like Netflix and National Geographic.
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About Chris Lehto
Chris Lehto is a former F-16 pilot with 18 years of experience in the Air Force.
He managed multi-million dollar simulator contracts, was an Electronic Attack SME for the Aggressors (OPFOR), and commanded the US Detachment at TLP for NATO Fighter Pilot Training.
Chris fought in Iraq for 5 months in 2006.
He spent 3 years in Turkey as an exchange pilot and is fluent in Turkish.
Chris is also a certified crash safety investigator, having investigated Air Force accidents for four years.
Lehto has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry-Materials Science from the Air Force Academy and a Master's in Aeronautical Science from Embry-Riddle University.
He was stationed in various locations worldwide, including South Korea, Italy, Alaska, Turkey, and Spain.
Lehto's YouTube channel, "Lehto Files", focuses on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) research, future tech insights, and sharing knowledge.
His approach is scientific, aiming to illuminate these phenomena and provide informative content.
He also shares his expertise on aviation safety and accident analysis.
Lehto believes in the power of open dialogue and the importance of a censorship-free internet.
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Question Arising
Is there a connection between the events observed during The Scole Experiment and UAP events observed around the world?
Some Members of the Communicator Team at Scole Identified as Extraterrestrial or Interdimensional NHI
During The Scole Experiment, a proportion of the members of the Communicator Team identified as non-human intelligences (NHI). They presented as either extraterrestrial or interdimensional.
In some sessions, multiple witnesses have testified to observing self-illuminating, miniature, anomalous craft materialising, hovering, and flying about within the experimental room itself.
There are similarities between these anomalous events at Scole and other UAP events reported worldwide relating to "The Phenomenon".
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Unravelling the Universe
The Scole Experiment, Mediumship, The Afterlife, ‘Paranormal’ Phenomena, UAP, & more with Nick Kyle [Timestamp 01:08:55]
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Nick Kyle: Scole Participant Interview Transcript Extract
The transcript below is from an Unravelling the Universe YouTube channel video in which the interviewer asks Nick Kyle–a former president of the Scottish Society for Psychical Research (SSPR)–about his experiences of UFOs (now known as UAP) during the Scole experiment sessions he attended as a participant and independent witness.[1]
[Timestamp 01:08:55]
Unravelling the Universe:
I think when you when you visited [the Scole Experiment] a UFO materialised. Like a kind of smaller craft in the room. Can you go into a bit more detail on that?
Nick Kyle:
The shapes I described to you were triangular or with curved edges and bulbous ends and so on. Nothing that I could recognise [distinguish?] really from everyday flying objects, even if they've been miniaturised.
But the craft that I described as the disc-like flying saucer, was exactly the typical shape.
Imagine a circular plate with raised edges. Another smaller plate placed on top of it. So you get the outer edge and then top of it an inner dome and then I think there was a tiny little Dome on top of that but you got this classic UFO shape.
And there were lights going around it. And there were lights on top of it shining out.
And underneath I was describing–for this object and for other objects–the lights targeting perhaps the face of a sitter [participant] and, let's say, a quartz crystal and maybe a bowl on the coffee table.
And, as the UFO went round with its flickering lights, the beams never left the targeted objects or face of the sitter.
And it didn't last long. I'm guessing, very few minutes, two maybe.
It would have been about, maybe 14 inches [across]. It's difficult to say because you have no frame of reference.
It's a darkened room, and this thing is providing the light. So you you're not sure exactly how close it is to you or how far away but it was a an ordinary-sized room and I would have said more than a foot but less than 18 inches.
Other objects might have been longer, I mentioned the tubes, you know, they would be longer.
But other objects that were maybe towing something underneath in total they would take up more of the airspace, so if you add on the things that were underneath to the object you might be talking about two feet or something.
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Notes
[1] Unravelling the Universe. (2023, 16 June). The Scole Experiment, Mediumship, The Afterlife, ‘Paranormal’ Phenomena, UAP, & more with Nick Kyle [Video]. YouTube. [Timestamp 01:08:55] https://youtu.be/D9uPv_69QXA?t=4135
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Content summary and researcher finding aid for the first edition of the Scole Bulletin-01 (Winter [December] 1994).
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SUBJECT: Summary of "The Spiritual Scientist" Vol 1, No 1 (December1994)
DATE: 01/04/2026
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1. ISSUE OVERVIEW
This inaugural issue, published in October 1994, serves as the complimentary introductory edition and official mouthpiece for the New Spiritual Science Foundation (NSSF). It outlines the foundation’s primary mission to provide regular updates on energy-based physical phenomena and reports on the experiments conducted by groups such as the Scole Experimental Group.
2. KEY SUBJECTS & PHENOMENA
* Foundational Goals: The NSSF aims to demonstrate new energy-based technology from the spirit world that provides tangible, objective proof of human survival beyond death.
* Scope of Phenomena: The bulletin introduces the types of manifestations regularly achieved at Scole, including independent lights, spiritual energy voices, psychic photography, and the materialisation of objects (apports).
* Evidential Nature: Emphasises that all reports are based on factual experience rather than fantasy. It notes that physical results like photographs and apported items are preserved for scrutiny and that phenomena can be witnessed by any person present during sittings.
* First Apport: References the foundational Churchill Crown coin apport received at the start of the experimental work.
* Publication Logistics: Announces the transition from this free issue to a subscription-based quarterly model to fund production and the eventual evolution into a professional format.
3. ARCHIVAL CONTEXT
This document is the cornerstone of the foundation's public record. It defines the "Spiritual Science" approach—distinguished from traditional spiritualism by its focus on technical development and scientific investigation of physical manifestations. It is essential for researchers tracking the "Scole Protocols" in their infancy. It establishes the group's intent to provide "tangible" and "real" physical evidence using the scientific method. It predates the formal SPR investigation and serves as a baseline for the phenomena's development.
Were Some of the Scole NHI Communicators "Ultraterrestrials"?
The non-human intelligences (NHI) presented themselves as members of a Team working in association with deceased human intelligences (DHI) when making contact and communicating with the living humans during the Scole Experiment sessions.
Could some of these NHI have been ultraterrestrials?
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Journal of Cosmology V29N1
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Ultraterrestrial Models
Paper proposes UAP and NHI might be from hidden terrestrial sources
Physicist Hal Puthoff published a 2022 paper in the Journal of Cosmology titled "Ultraterrestrial Models" proposing that unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) and non-human intelligence (NHI) might originate from hidden terrestrial sources rather than distant star systems.[1]
Abstract
Under consideration in this paper are two seminal statements and their concomitants, currently unknown, as follows:
1. There is an unidentified phenomenon interacting with the current human population on Earth;
2. It is currently unknown whether the phenomenon is exclusively extraterrestrial, extradimensional, crypto-terrestrial, demonic/djinn, proto/ancient human, time-travelers, etc., or some combination or mutation of any or all of these. However, it appears highly likely that the phenomenon per se is not constituted exclusively of members of the current human population.
In this paper we address the above under the overarching theme Ultraterrestrials in order to develop a template to be matched against data at hand and that may be procured in the future.
The Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis: The theory that advanced intelligence or sequestered local cultures (such as ancient high-tech breakaway societies or hidden groups) co-exist alongside humanity in stealth.
Alternative explanations for UAP: Puthoff outlines several potential explanations for UAP origins, including extraterrestrial visitors, interdimensional beings, time travellers, proto-humans, and ancient humans.
Observed signatures: The paper notes that if hidden groups exist, their interactions might feature nuclear or environmental messaging, misdirection using an extraterrestrial ruse, and stealth bases located underground or undersea.
Research strategy: Puthoff argues that researchers should move past passive data gathering toward proactive forensic and traffic analysis.
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Scole Archive researchers may wish to pursue more information about:
Puthoff's past work with SRI International on remote viewing
The distinction between crypto-terrestrial and extraterrestrial theories
Specific arguments made in the Journal of Cosmology publication
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Who Is Hal Puthoff?
While working at SRI International*, Dr. Harold E. "Hal" Puthoff worked with and received funding from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) as an external contractor and researcher.
Key details of his work with the CIA and DIA:
The Stargate Project: In the 1970s and 1980s, the CIA and the DIA funded Puthoff and physicist Russell Targ at SRI International to investigate psychic and parapsychological phenomena.
Remote viewing: Puthoff co-founded and directed the classified "remote viewing" program (later known as Stargate Project) to test whether individuals could mentally perceive distant or hidden targets for Cold War intelligence purposes.
Prior military/NSA background: Before his work at SRI, Puthoff served as a U.S. Navy officer assigned to the National Security Agency (NSA), and later worked as a civilian employee and researcher.
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What is the Relationship Between Proto-humans, Ancient Humans, and Modern Humans?
Proto-humans: This term is informally or broadly used to describe extinct hominins or ancestral species leading up to Homo sapiens, which can include archaic Homo sapiens, early Homo species (like Homo erectus), or earlier close relatives such as australopithecines.
Ancient humans: This usually refers to early members of our own species (Homo sapiens) who lived tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago (such as early African or Levantine Homo sapiens), or closely related archaic humans like Neanderthals and Denisovans who walked the earth alongside our Homo sapiens ancestors.
The relationship: Proto-humans represent the evolutionary steps and branching genera (Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, Paranthropus, and early Homo) that developed over 6 million years leading to modern humans, rather than being identical to ancient Homo sapiens.
Were other humans the first victims of the sixth mass extinction?
There is a prominent and well-supported scientific theory, popularised by evolutionary biologists like Dr. Nick Longrich in The Conversation, which states that nine human species coexisted on Earth roughly 300,000 years ago.[3]
Early Homo sapiens likely caused the extinction of at least eight other human species approximately 300,000 to 10,000 years ago, marking the true beginning of the sixth mass extinction.
Longrich argues that our ancestors eliminated competing hominin populations not through an environmental disaster or a single coordinated war, but via an aggressive, millennial-long war of attrition driven by population growth and resource competition.
The spread of modern humans out of Africa has caused a sixth mass extinction, a greater than 40,000-year event extending from the disappearance of Ice Age mammals to the destruction of rainforests by civilisation today. But were other humans the first casualties?
We are a uniquely dangerous species. We hunted wooly mammoths, ground sloths and moas to extinction. We destroyed plains and forests for farming, modifying over half the planet’s land area. We altered the planet’s climate. But we are most dangerous to other human populations, because we compete for resources and land.
Key elements of the extinction
The lost species: Around 300,000 years ago, Homo sapiens coexisted with groups like Neanderthals, Denisovans, Homo erectus, and several small-brained species. By 10,000 years ago, all were gone.
The violence of human nature: Fossil evidence and archaeology disprove the "peaceful noble savage" myth. Early human history shows pervasive, lethal cooperative warfare over territory.
Sapiens' evolutionary edge:Homo sapiens possessed projectile weapons, superior toolmaking capabilities, and a highly developed capacity for abstract language and large-scale social cooperation.
Evidence of interaction: Interbreeding occurred before the final displacement. Traces of archaic hominin DNA in modern humans prove modern humans encountered these species shortly before they vanished. For example, modern humans outside of Africa carry about 1 to 2 percent Neanderthal DNA in their genomes, while people with sub-Saharan African ancestry typically carry around 0.3 to 0.5 percent.
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Questions Arising
Could relationships be identified between non-humans, deceased humans, proto-humans, ancient humans, modern humans, and ultraterrestrials?
If so, could an understanding of these connections shed any light on the questions raised by the Scole sessions—particularly concerning the evidence for "teamwork" across different types of DHI and NHI communicators and their apparent mutual concern for living humans?
If humans are indeed a "uniquely dangerous species" and are on the brink of spreading out into the galaxy or beyond our own "dimension", should our neighbour (non-human) species be concerned?
Is it possible that non-human species are taking more of an interest in humans now because they have concerns that we might soon be a danger to them?
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External Links
* SRI International: "As an independent, nonprofit R&D organization, SRI leverages proven expertise to transition real-world solutions with meaningful impact — advancing everything from breakthrough technologies to research that shapes how the next generation learns. For 80 years, we have developed and delivered many of the technologies that billions of people use every day". https://www.sri.com/
[2] Targ, R., & Puthoff, H. (1974, 26-27 August). Remote Viewing of Natural Targets. Stanford Research Institute—Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory. This paper was written to be presented at the Conference on Quantum Physics and Parapsychology, Geneva, Switzerland. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500410001-3.pdf
This paper presents a series of experiments in which a subject is asked to describe a remote site chosen by experimenters and unknown to the subject
The New Science of Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP)
In 2025, an international team of 33 scientists published a comprehensive review article on the "New Science of Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP)" in the renowned journal Progress in Aerospace Sciences. The lead author was Prof. Kevin H. Knuth from the University at Albany.
The publication marked an important step forward in the scientific exploration of previously unexplained aerial and underwater phenomena. In their article, the authors summarised around 20 historical government studies from various countries as well as current research projects, emphasising the need for systematic scientific investigation of UAP.
As modern science begins to rigorously study Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP), we are sharing foundational academic papers that parallel the phenomena documented at Scole.
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Progress in Aerospace Sciences
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Authors
Kevin H. Knuth, Philippe Ailleris, Hussein Ali Agrama, Eamonn Ansbro, Phyllis A. Budinger, Tejin Cai, Thibaut Canuti, Michael C. Cifone, Walter Bruce Cornet, Jr., Frederic Courtade, Richard Dolan, Laura Domine, Luc Dini, Baptiste Friscourt, Ryan Graves, Richard F. Haines, Richard Hoff- man, Hakan Kayal, Sarah Little, Garry P. Nolan, Robert Powell, Mark Rodeghier, Edoardo Russo, Peter Skafish, Erling Strand, Michael Swords, Matthew Szydagis, Gerald T. Tedesco, John J. Tedesco, Massimo Teodorani, Jacques Vallée, Michael Vaillant, Beatriz Villarroel, Wesley A. Watters.
Highlights
• UAP, formerly known as UFOs, are a long-standing global phenomenon, which have not only been observed by professional engineers, scientists, and astronomers, but have also been studied by them.
• There exist today a number of serious academic and private efforts to scientifically study UAP using the equivalent of multi-messenger astronomy, which involves a diverse array of scientific instrumentation.
Abstract
After decades of dismissal and secrecy, it has become clear that a significant number of the world’s governments take Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP), formerly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), seriously—yet still seem to know little about them. As a result, these phenomena are increasingly attracting the attention of scientists around the world, some of whom have recently formed research efforts to monitor and scientifically study UAP. In this paper, we review and summarize approximately 20 historical government studies dating from 1933 to the present (in Scandinavia, WWII, US, Canada, France, Russia, China), several historical private research studies (France, UK, US), and both recent and current scientific research efforts (Ireland, Germany, Norway, Sweden, US). In doing so, our objective is to clarify the existing global and historical scientific narrative around UAP. Studies range from field station development and deployment to the collection and analysis of witness reports from around the world. We dispel the common misconception that UAPs are an American phenomenon and show that UAP can be, and have been, scientifically investigated. Our aim here is to enable future studies to draw on the great depth of prior documented experience.
[1] arXiv (pronounced "archive") is a free, open-access repository for scholarly articles, primarily in fields like physics, mathematics, computer science, and quantitative biology.
